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That's what the governor was told about clearing out the prison in The Walking Dead. ... so cool when they first got in the prison and walked around in a blob clearing all the zombies.

If we can adopt the above strategy I see no reason why this concept cant work. we gotta keep our cool, agree on some goals and execute our plans like a military operation.

Torrinos is in Lonetrek and is the entry point into Pure Blind, which is where you have SOE and Mordu's NPC 0.0 space, this area gets camped by CFC, when they are not on deployment and of course gets roams and BLOPS on it because its so small, compare to Stain which is an entire region, the Blood Raider space in Delve has the same issue, at the moment there is a lot of activity there, again close to low sec/ high sec. I have operated out of NPC Delve, and was invited to SOE area by FA at one point as long as my group gave them fightsl.

NRDS definately is something that makes them more vulnerable, but if people continue farming when a neutral comes in then more fool them, NRDS requires a proactive approach to setting reds and sensible attitudes to neutrals. The difference between us and them is that neutrals are seen as a threat, but they are not actively hunted if they are in say a scanning ship, or running sites etc., the trick is to watch the space and what people do. Now if I see one in a covert ops dropping combat probes, that person is deemed a threat. Providence also gets dropped on because its a smaller less powerful organisation yet has a lot of targets.

Everything is a gamble in Eve, its very easy to scam people, however some of us play it up front without the need for such play, meta gaming billions by scamming a corp or alliance is easy, doing something like this is not, its a challenge and more fun.

We don't enjoy NRDS. Actually we think Eve needs a safe haven that does not practice NRDS. There has been some talk of a new policy called BSWF (Be Safe While Flying) which involves being very cautious and gathering as much intel as possible before anything is done.

Make no mistake here, I can't stress enough that this is not NRDS. Yes, we might be a group of people that don't shoot first, but if you are not blue to us then we will get safe when you come into our systems we will then collect intel on you and study what you do around us. If we get the slightest feeling that you want to kill us then we will fleet up and kill you.

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We are the good guys, however if we think that someone is a threat we will kill them and will shoot first,...
If a neutral comes in does sites, no issue for me, I really do not feel the need to blast them for it

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Of course he's safe, silly. He's cloaked.

Mr Epeen

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Orca's don't use, they are too slow and in any case not suited for NPC 0.0, Rorquals don't use, in any case would have in a POS only, but hardly worth it for Ventures, moon mining POS don't use, though I have some POS's here ready to go if I feel like it in terms of having numbers, ratting carriers don't use, in my opinion using a carrier to rat with sentry drones is suicide, don't forget that part of the approach is to operate below the radar, as you know there are people who will hot drop a rifter, but not that many to be honest, so using small fast ships that can rip bombers and interceptors a new one, are pretty damn safe.
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Smaller actually, and its actually quite good what you get from gun mining and hauler spawns, how does 50m of Trit and 2.5m of mex sound to you in 3 carrier wrecks?
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... Highsec carebears are not bad because they are highsec carebears. They are bad because they are not nullsec carebears helping fortify some alliance cannon fodder number or paying rent on a system and helping fill the coffers.

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I answered you questions, and then I get referred to as a know it all,...

... Aaron asked me to go back to the person who kindly donated his Rhea and ask if he was willing to lend us it again, but I feel bad mucking him around, so refused. In any case, at this point I can support the exploration market easily with a carrier and will expend when I have the JF. Do you think I should go back and ask him if he is willing to lend me it again?...

But in any case lets look at you, hmmmm, no kills and lots of cyno ship losses, so in reality we have someone criticizing and talking about leadership who is too pathetic to post with his main, so seriously how can anyone take you seriously when you post with a cyno alt.....

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Post with your main or shut up!

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The onus is on you, you criticize here, talk about leadership, and then express how you did 'logistics', but then you post using your cyno alt, you do realise that leaders stand up, not hide in the shadows....
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Post with your main or shut up!

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Stacmon has a good market, from there you can head to Barleguet and punch out Brave Newbies, or a short drive to KLYN-8 or even around to Orvolle for the scenic route. Syndicate: less needed, get more done....

But in any case lets look at you, hmmmm, no kills and lots of cyno ship losses, so in reality we have someone criticizing and talking about leadership who is too pathetic to post with his main, so seriously how can anyone take you seriously when you post with a cyno alt.

It is my vision to help create a place in 0.0 where you can chill out and be your own person.

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A "group of soloers" is an oxymoron.

You cannot cut off somethings head if it has no head. You cannot siege a base if there is no base to seige. You can't meta disband a disparate group like you could disband a cohesive group like BoB.

The strength the alliances have is a strength that only works against other like forces. An irregular force such as that proposed by Aaron is pretty much impossible to 'run off'. Sure you could take a blob to X system and sit there for a day but as soon as you leave things go back to normal.

If you have seen groups of soloers get run off its only because they were soloers and formed something together, thus no longer being soloers and becoming vulnerable.

... If you join our hub-zero channel you will see we regularly have 30+ people to chat with.

... myself, Aaron, or Drac ....

I appreciate what you said and your description of Chopper Rollins is spot on, as I am sure does Aaron,....

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Is it possible for you to cry any more, Hub Zero is thriving and your crying in this thread and on Mobile Depots is all you can do!

Also skulking in our area with multiple noob toons who can do nothing apart from making comments on mobile depots and reporting people for swearing in local is also an epic fail on your part and shows what a loser you really are.

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The success of HZ will not be determined by anybody's opinion.

To you, economics appears to be the be all and end all of social theory. This is, of course, utter bunk.

...however after a certain amount of time a NCDOT player with multiple accounts decided to start playing again and decided to farm Hub Zero, he organised with friends and their accounts and he saturated the area with cloaky ships with a capacity behind them that made it difficult to operate, that player is very good at it, but it is the type of combat that is destroying Eve, ganking of PvE boats and only fighting if they could attack with no risk of loss...

...one of my fellow players Infinity Ziona left the game because of the failure of CCP to control these people in anyway shape or form,. ..

I am not scared of the big boys in this game I've been able to limit my loss and stay under the radar for so long.

As was recently pointed out by an alliance leader - the way to beat your enemy is to destroy his desire to log in. Maybe that's true; but it doesn't seem very good for Eve, or the financial health of CCP.

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Chopper Rollins thinks that very self-importantly that he did it, but the issue for me was NCDOT, not his lame campers that spent their time saying things on Mobile Depots, and I proved a point by setting him up and killing one, it took me less than a week of conditioning him with the mobile depots, by reinforcing them and having people cloaked up watching him when he logged in I saw his pattern and then timed it to get him, when he warped to his second depot he found an interceptor there, it was easy, and there he is talking as if he was something clever. In the end he started working with the NCDOT guys, because on his own he was able to do nothing. I tried to bait him in sites a few times after he had killed a couple of people doing relic sites, but he was scared of me, would not come out to play, I even ran around in Industrials pretending to do PI and he would not go after me, so he may be all triumphant, but it was the NCDOT. guys who live in that area who wanted easy kills, not him, and to try to claim it was him just proves how lame he is.